Current total: $604.27
I have pretty well settled into .10-.20 now. I have totally changed my approach, and what I am doing now closely resembles real poker. I basically take my A game as the baseline approach, and make adjustments from there.
At the levels below I was instead taking a more bulk approach. I tried to basically play as many hands as I could, and play my premium hands super aggressive and let the fact that people will pay you off with lesser hands take it's course.
At these levels though, people simply fold a LOT more. It went from super passive to friggin tight in a hurry. I tried to run over the table at first but all I got were folds. Of course they would call me with the nuts or near nuts. So I started making adjustments and came to the lame conclusion that I had to actually play poker. This means value betting instead of value-shipping. It means laying down AQ preflop sometimes. It means paying attention to position, not just clicking the bet pot button, floating, check-raising, taking better notes etc. What a chore...lol.
Anyhow, I have a better feel but still am experiencing quite a bit of variance in my roll. It is however steady in its upward climb, so that is good. I have been taking an unusual amount of beats lately, but I have been rolling with the punches like a champ. I am more just aware of the beats than tilted by them. I have a bunch of hands to share now, I will just put some quick notes by the hands and let you guys take what you will from them. Comments always welcome, good, bad or indifferent.
Value called this maniac with AJ
I don't know what this dude had, but it shows the importance of not letting up on betting.
Value bet here. Should I have bet the turn though?
This is pretty hilarious how slow this guy played his monster hand.
I don't know what this guy thought he had, but I am glad I didn't chicken out.
Pretty fucking sick.
I wasn't going anywhere once I got that flop. (And I am pretty sure he wasn't either, regardless of the turn)
This is where staying aggressive pays off big. You will notice that I bet and raised at every possible opportunity.
This chump check-raises me all in on the flop, but I sniff him out and call with my overpair.
This guy has a short stack and was tossing it around. I bet my 2nd pair on the flop for value, get it in on the turn with the same thought. Friggin gutters..
This is a Ryan tribute hand. I had notes on this guy, and they read "Will check the nuts even on river looking to check raise" I rule. The turn club froze me, but when he checks the river I would normally bet out 100% of the time.
I play this guy a lot, and he hates me. I guess I don't hate his ship here, but with the nuts I am going nowhere.
This was my first hand at this table. Sometimes (never) it's just this easy.
Standard. This dude check calls the flop and turn with 2nd pair. What else could he do?? Fold?? :/
This fucking retard had JJ
This time I am the fucking retard with JJ. Winning the whole pot would have been nice..
Annoying but standard
I guess I was blinded by this guys screen name?
He didn't have much of a stack.
I make a huge check raise on the flop for all of this dudes chips. And it even worked! Not the out I was expecting though.
This is the final hand against that one guy that I had stacked twice already. I didn't do anything special, just that I had better hands to start with, and better hands on the flop. He left after this one..
I play this hand passively until I hit the nuts, then I pull the ol' check/minraise on this guy trying to either get him to reshove or to at least commit himself. He does so and calls the river value ship too.
This was sick, because I had this fucker on exactly KQ after he just flat called my preflop hammer and then led at that flop. I flat called because his bet left him with 6.10 left and I knew that if he had a Q he would fire at the turn, either shipping betting half his stack, which I can then min raise and he would be all in. Turn was sick, but I couldn't let them go. I get some decent reads occasionally online, but I try not to follow through too much on these types of reads because I think I will lose more by not just playing more straight forward.
I check min-raise here too, but I am hoping this guy has an A and will just ship when I do it. He does not oblige, so I just open ship the river instead which he calls with presumably an Ace but I don't know for sure.
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Kidding. Congrats on six bills. Some day *I* will join the Cake Challenge, seriously!
"I don't know what this dude had..." looks like it points to the same link as very first one.
"This is pretty hilarious..." Wow. Horrendous play. Go back to .02/.04.
"I don't know what this guy..." Spade draw and one of Jason's runner-runner straights.
"...Ryan tribute hand..." Awesome. We need to get a merging system to consolidate notes.
"Standard...2nd pair" I see a recurring theme of knowing that an Ace is going to hit.
"This time I am..." Nice to see the position calling off all chips with ducks. Strong.
"...blinded by..." I hate when that happens. MB stacked me with that exact scenario and it almost cost me a full buy at MGM. 'cept I waited to flop top/top first then then lost my money. You are jumping the gun by getting it all in pre. How can the case Ace show up so many times?
"...huge check raise..." ...or they know the Deuce is coming. Same thing as knowing the Ace is coming.
"...final hand..." Beautiful. You should post the whole sequence so we can see the HH to go with the story you told at TuNP.
"This was sick..." Yeah, read might be off and you still had eight outs to counterfeit or trip up just in case.
Entertaining HHs.
Just noticed your new blog "ThatsNotCake" and had to chuckle. Great name!
FYI, you can right click on your chart in EditGrid to get its permalink and use that for your blog header graphic so that it updates auto-magically.
You are a god, sir! Jason’s wish for a $1K caker will surely come true soon enough.
“This is pretty hilarious…”
Indeed, I love the super-slowplayed monster like that, just awesome. Why not another raise from you on the river, though? Really afraid of 74, or afraid of feeding the rake in a chop?
Way to ride out the beats and climb the ladder.
A Jason Comment:
Brilliant play my friend. It is with honor that I concede that, to date, you are the best online player I know. 6 Bills at these stakes is pretty F**ing amazing.
I love the value call with AJ on the ship when you have Ace High. I don't think I have ever value called with Ace high on a ship in a cash game, though I know I have done in tourney play, even in the early stages of sit and gos against maniacs.
I notice that you rarely, if ever, fold top pair good kicker. I can't say I do much either, other than at my house when we were all playing with 3 to 4 buyins in front of us. This is just an observation, not a criticism, as it seems to work out for you.
Love the notes on the guy that will check raise the nuts. You will need really good notes to succeed when you get to the higher stakes.
I guess I would differ on the comment I don't hate villains ship here when he has A8 of hearts with a heart draw on the turn. On the turn, you lead out, he raises and you pot commit him. I have yet to find a player with enough balls to do a lead out, then get raised, and reraise with anything but a monster. It would have been a tremendous laydown but it is possible for the villain to get away from that hand with all of the action you gave him.
On the retard hand who has JJ, you forgot to comment that I was at the table and typed in the chat nh sir with the moniker bugman00 showing.
You comment that at this level you need to do more value betting as there are more folders. I agree. But you ship a bunch on the river and get paid with the best hand. A tough question, but how does Marsh decide to river value bet or ship?
More a style comment than a criticism, but I don't see many comments that I induced a bluff from a maniac. There are times, though rare, when slow playing will make sense against the right type of maniac. I was playing a maniac when I picked up AA and raised preflop from UTG. The flop was 7,7,5. I was first to act and checked. The maniac surprisingly checked but he will often check the flop. I bet out with a weak 1/2 pot size bet on the turn, a 5. He raised, I reraised and he folded. Small victory, but you may want to add "I will try to induce bluffs from maniacs into your arsenal."
Nice work sir, a tremendous achievement. I can now stop bitching so much about my river cards as I did pick up quad 8's on Omaha (high) and got paid.
Ryan: I think it was a mistake to not ship there but at the same time I had no clue what this guy was raising so big with all of a sudden. I had zero idea he was on such a big hand, from my perspective it was just a nothing hand where I check my option and check it down after that. He was the SB and could have had anything is what I was thinking I guess.
Jase:
I notice that you rarely, if ever, fold top pair good kicker. I can't say I do much either, other than at my house when we were all playing with 3 to 4 buyins in front of us. This is just an observation, not a criticism, as it seems to work out for you.
I don't fold top pair good kicker easily, but I dump it quite regularly when I think I am beaten. One thing to remember is that if I am folding it, you aren't seeing it a lot of the time. Example was last WNP, I dumped AQ on a AJ3 board to significant pressure from Ryan. Online however, I am more reluctant to fold TPGK against random players.
Love the notes on the guy that will check raise the nuts. You will need really good notes to succeed when you get to the higher stakes.
Yes this is true. I suspect it will be harder to multitable effectively at higher limits. Also it's hard when most people at even the mid limits that take it seriously are using PokerTracker or other software to get a feel for your play.
I guess I would differ on the comment I don't hate villains ship here when he has A8 of hearts with a heart draw on the turn. On the turn, you lead out, he raises and you pot commit him. I have yet to find a player with enough balls to do a lead out, then get raised, and reraise with anything but a monster. It would have been a tremendous laydown but it is possible for the villain to get away from that hand with all of the action you gave him.
I agree to a certain point with what you said. This guy can play though and at least thinks about his play and mine (evidence by his chat). I mean he can't put me on a big hand here because I limped preflop and he should know I raise when I have something I like. I lead at the pot and he probably has me on a random K or something. Now I lead into the turn and he probably thinks I am just rebetting my K. So he raises. I like that. He does min raise though because I am pretty sure he is trying get me to re-pop him. I do just that and he has a big decision here. I guess he just can't put me on a hand that he is that far behind with the nut FD, but he could have let it go also, as he should know I am not going to get it all in with something behind a bare A usually. Like I said, I don't hate his ship, but he should have realized he didn't have any more fold equity after all the action I was giving.
On the retard hand who has JJ, you forgot to comment that I was at the table and typed in the chat nh sir with the moniker bugman00 showing.
my bad dude, thanks for the documented props.
You comment that at this level you need to do more value betting as there are more folders. I agree. But you ship a bunch on the river and get paid with the best hand. A tough question, but how does Marsh decide to river value bet or ship?
This might warrant a whole separate post, but basically there are 2 main factors: 1. How apt is this guy to call, and 2. Do I have him on a big enough hand to call? More on this in a separate post I think..
More a style comment than a criticism, but I don't see many comments that I induced a bluff from a maniac. There are times, though rare, when slow playing will make sense against the right type of maniac. I was playing a maniac when I picked up AA and raised preflop from UTG. The flop was 7,7,5. I was first to act and checked. The maniac surprisingly checked but he will often check the flop. I bet out with a weak 1/2 pot size bet on the turn, a 5. He raised, I reraised and he folded. Small victory, but you may want to add "I will try to induce bluffs from maniacs into your arsenal."
Yes I agree with this. I have also been putting that element into my online game, where before I would just hammer. I did have it backfire on me once against that same player that shipped with the Ah8h against my broadway straight. I flopped a set and check called the flop, then check min raised the turn hoping to induce a re-raise, but he flat called the bet. He flat called it and hit a gutter on the river, and I went broke. I still think it was a good way to play it though, as he had no clue where I was at and he called quite a decent amount with A high.
"Value bet here. Should I have bet the turn though?"
girlygirlpnk is a decent thinking player who will bluff from time to time. If you bet the turn and get raised, you're in a tough spot for the rest of your chips. I couldn't put him squarely on a 6 but he'll definitely float a flop with a weak top pair or second pair type hand. I like the turn check, you're keeping the pot small and underrepping your hand. I wouldn't have been surprised if he tried bluffing the river because of that, but after he checks you can be pretty damn sure you have the best hand. I would bet a bit more on the river, try to make it look like you're stealing the pot. He'll look you up with any Q.
"I don't know what this guy thought he had, but I am glad I didn't chicken out."
Yeah, he's repping two pair or a set, but he's a short stack so whatEVER. NH.
Man, you have a lot of hands where you go nuts with TP. What is it about your opponents that's telling you to go to the felt with that? What kind of notes do you have on these guys?
"This is where staying aggressive pays off big."
I'm so in love with this hand. I probably would have gotten all fancy and tried to call his flop raise and check raise the turn, but hammering it is so much more impressive. Well played.
Excellent hands, Marsh. Grats on hitting $600, you're gonna be over $1k in no time.
Man, you have a lot of hands where you go nuts with TP.
Do I? Crap I guess I didn't really realize it. I hammer pretty hard, with TPGK, maybe too much? Do you usually find you need much stronger hands to go deep into a hand or to put a lot of money in the pot?
What is it about your opponents that's telling you to go to the felt with that?
I am not sure what it is about my opponents. I generally have a good feel for who can play at my table and I have to say that the tables are much much tougher than I had expected. These guys are generally really nitty and will fold fold fold. I got used to getting paid off with almost all of my good hands, but now I can't get people to put in friggin' value bets when I have monsters. And I play pretty laggy a lot of the time, it should be hard for them to put me on a hand..
What kind of notes do you have on these guys?
I have your notes. ;)
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